Comments on: Does the Beijing-R mean anything?

By: bezdomny ex patria » Blog Archive » erhuaing the fenqing

bezdomny ex patria » Blog Archive » erhuaing the fenqing — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:02:56 +0000

[...] 儿化音 (rhoticization? is that the right word?) on the end. And so, naturally, one wonders what the R means here? Is it some kind of diminutive? Indicating what? Familiarity? Or is it perhaps a little [...]

By: Pinyin news » -r endings, their pronunciation, and Pinyin spelling

Pinyin news » -r endings, their pronunciation, and Pinyin spelling — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:02:40 +0000

[...] (wánr, to [...]

By: hsknotes

hsknotes — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:47:35 +0000

People will tell you a lot of shit about the Beijing R, or the Mandarin R, or the northern (or northeast) R. There are some general rules you can follow but they aren’t hard and fast. Asking the “cabbies” how to pronounce things like 前门 or 天安门 always produces interesting surprises that your teacher or upperish class chinese friends have trouble accepting or admitting. Sort of like asking them about tones which you know aren’t pronounced by most people. Chinese people don’t like to lose face, period.

I once had a cabbie who almost pulled a double R on 德胜门 – 德儿门儿。 But really, most cabbies and many beijing (ok really an incredible amount of chinese people) speak so incredibly unclearly at times, that debating these points is really a bit fruitless/useless.

By: syz

syz — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:09:01 +0000

lin, 我认为你说的这个”非正式”的意味有道理。还有什么例如吗？

Kelly, hope you manage to come back and sorry for taking so long to reply. The site sounds interesting and I’ve actually been there on a couple of different computers but I can’t seem to get the sound files. It’s weird. I’ve asked a couple of friends and some can see them but some can’t. Don’t know if you need to have something special installed on your computer…

By: lin

lin — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:19:34 +0000

一般儿化音是非正式的用法，所以一般汉字加儿化音有“非正式的”意味。比如汤和汤儿，汤是指soup,“汤儿”是指非正式的汤，或者说是像汤的东西。

By: Kelly

Kelly — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:31:18 +0000

Not really sure how to start a new thread so I am making a comment here.

Not sure if this has already been posted but I came upon a website that breaks down the Beijing-R blending (I am not a linguist so I will use this word for lack of a better one) into 23 different chapters based on the ending of the previous words, along with audio of the blends. I quickly ported the words and and audio into a word document and real player files, respectively. Took about a half hour. I listen to it every morning while brushing my teeth to get a warm up on the days forthcoming Beijing-R lovefest.

The link is: http://www.ynpxrz.com/n3918c609.aspx

By: Anatoli

Anatoli — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:43:02 +0000

It is now standard for many words (not all) an dis used in HSK exam, so even if you don’t like it, erhua (儿化) is part of the standard Putonghua in mainland China and for a smaller number of words in Taiwanese Mandarin.

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Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:09:13 +0000

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Fri, 09 May 2008 23:45:44 +0000

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Mon, 05 May 2008 13:55:42 +0000

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By: Echoes of Manchu » To the End of the Queue

Echoes of Manchu » To the End of the Queue — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:17:39 +0000

[...] may have been Ken Grey, a sometime Beijing Sounds commenter, who planted the seed. He mentioned a time, not so very long ago, when the Manchu language could be heard on the streets of Beijing. If [...]